RealID For Your FakeOrc

World of Warcraft forums blow up, y0. 479 pages last time I checked, and about 5000 closed threads with the note “dear god please keep it to one thread oh god my head it burns”.

Some official comment by the completely calm and not at all stressed Blizzard community team:

We put a lot of thought into this change and have a long-term vision for the Real ID service and wanted to make sure that we communicated ahead of time and very clearly as to what will be changing and how. Keep in mind that posting is optional, and we recognize that some players will choose not to utilize the Real ID feature in game or post on the forums and support everyone’s individual choice on using or not using it.

This is obviously new ground for us and for you as well, but we want to make sure we’re creating a great social-gaming service that people will want to use.

And that’s really the heart of the matter, isn’t it.

So as my snarky comment initially probably made clear, I’m not happy about this. Why?

Blizzard is embracing the Facebook model of social networking. Specifically, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s view that you should be you, and that the idea that you should ever choose to present something other than you is fundamentally flawed.

[Zuckerberg] disagrees with the notion that people have different identities. To him, the idea that someone is different at work than at home, than at a rock concert, is dishonest. Says Kirkpatrick, “He believes that he will live a better life personally, and all of us will be more honest, and ultimately it will be better for the world if we dispense with that belief.”

Well, that’s great for Facebook. Actually it isn’t. Facebook actively purges its rolls of people they consider dishonest, such as Second Life avatars who prefer to remain anonymous. In fact, just having an odd name can put your Facebook account at risk. But obviously that’s a very small subset of the millions of people on Facebook, all of whom are quite happy to poke around their virtual farms and post the same 12 funny videos and inform everyone what they had for lunch. Oh wait, that’s Twitter, which is fine with having a pseudoym for an account name. Hrm.

But anyway, when you have as a core belief that people who want to be anonymous, for whatever reason, are lying liars, then providing opt-out features seems kind of beside the point, doesn’t it? And Blizzard really, really, really, for whatever reason, dislikes opt-out features of any sort. The only way you can opt-out of the RealID in-game system, for example, is through a “Parental Control” system that is intended for children. And, not coincidentally, required by law. The features of RealID chat in-game that arouse the most ire – the inability to set an alias for one’s real name, the inability to flag alt characters out of visibility, and above all, the inability to block people from browsing your friends list – are all easily fixed via code. Yet Blizzard won’t do it.

Why not? Well, look at this response from another privacy hullaballoo – Blizzard’s refusal to allow people to opt out of having their character data displayed online – for a clue.

(checks)

Oh. There’s no any mention of opting out at all. OK. Well, there’s that time they made fun of people who wanted to. I suppose that’s a response. Wait, here’s a post from 2007!

Can I “opt-out” of the Armory?

No; this particular option is currently unavailable. While we do not possess any present intention to allow our players to opt-out of basic Armory features (character display, talent build, arena teams, and reputation), we do plan to introduce more complex functionalities; these upcoming functionalities will be “opt-in”/”opt-out,” thus granting our players the opportunity to display or omit correlated information as desired.

Clearly, they got right on that.

The irony, of course, is that Facebook has had their own well-documented struggles with privacy and opt-out features.

The site’s privacy travails have rattled Facebook employees and put pressure on Mr. Zuckerberg, who has argued for years that its users should be more open with their information. He has at times over-ruled employees who argue Facebook should make more information private, by default, according to people familiar with the matter. He has instead pushed to offer tools so users can control their information, these people said.

Yet Blizzard doesn’t offer those tools. Their answer for controlling the flow of information from your account is simple: don’t use it. After all, if you want to create a social network, you know, it doesn’t work if people are listed as Zhar’lynn the Blood Elf instead of Jennifer Smith. It really doesn’t. Look, we don’t know why it doesn’t, but Facebook does it and Zynga is making a ton of money and this is how games are now, OK? Deal with it.

And quite a few people are willing to excuse Blizzard for it, because… well, it’s Blizzard and World of Warcraft is fun and they should be allowed to do what they want. To quote one person whom I argued the point in IRC:

Blizzard is just making the decision that your name isn’t private info any longer.

Well, you know, maybe I think that shouldn’t be their call.

But hey, it’s just a video game and not… whatever the hell Facebook even is any more. And not only that, there’s nothing stopping you from not accepting RealID friend requests. Or not posting on forums. Or not playing Starcraft 2. Or not buying Diablo 3. Or not playing World of Warcraft.

Especially if you’re female. Because in the New Facebook Order, levelling while female is the new driving while black. Of course, if you don’t want people to treat you differently for being a woman, you could just not post in the forums. Or play Starcraft 2. Or not buy…

A completely un-related programming note: you may note that I have removed a good deal of Facebook integration from the blog, save automated login which is used by some users as a convenience. This is, as I said, completely unrelated and a complete coincidence.

  • Thrakin

    Actually, this has less to do with streamlining social networking thru the games, and more to do with advertising and partnership fees.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/05/blizzard-and-facebooks-friendly-social-networking-deal-launches-with-starcraft-ii-/1
    This is an article from May. Blizzard and Facebook are now partners. Gives it a whole new twist now, right?

  • http://geldonsgaming.blogspot.com geldonyetich

    It’s sort of an interesting two-bladed sword, really.
    On one hand, I like to think that our pseudonyms exist for a reason other than to mouth off without repercussions.
    On the other hand, there are screwed up people out there for whom you would hope participation in a forum thread does not involve yourself.
    In any case, that Blizzard and Facebook are partners would seem to be far from coincidental to me, considering Facebook has been on the RealID bandwagon for quite some time.  This is clearly just a step planned from the beginning in some dark corporate boardroom to merge the databases.  Kotek hasn’t announced he has bought Facebook.  Yet.

  • http://geldonsgaming.blogspot.com geldonyetich

    geldonyetich: Kotek hasn’t announced he has bought Facebook. Yet.

    Er, I meant Bobby Kotick.

  • John Smith

    I use to think it was silly but now I’m happy that nsoft (korea) decided to embrace twitter… for all their failings in the west, at least we won’t have to worry about THIS particular issue when we play something like Aion or Lineage(2). tweet tweet instead of identity cavity searches, hurray!

  • dartwick

    This could make VN relevant.

  • Synral

    Here’s one reason why Real ID for the forums shouldn’t go live: http://kotaku.com/5550609/man-spends-six-months-plotting-murder-of-counter+strike-rival

    And if you think that’s bad, consider the consequences for women who play WOW. Voice chat is pretty much mandatory for raiding or high level PVP. Imagine if a creepy comrade found out a female in his gaming group ALSO lived in Pittsburg, two miles from his house!

    Yep, I see NO potential for abuse here.

  • Scott

    I saw your link here from a wow.com article.
    I want to point out a thread I saw earlier in the day that was closed with little fanfare and no blue post, probably because they do not want to bring attention to it.
     
    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626188925&sid=1
     
    Basically the thread just says that if you don’t like what Blizzard/Activision is doing write your senator and congressman and file a complaint. If enough people do this they will get dragged in front of the senate and made to squirm for their lack of concern for privacy. Facebook had this done to them over their confusing opt-out controls as well.

  • Brask Mumei

    Someone was asking how this could be for-profit.  It is simple: there is a nice huge database of consumer information sitting in Blizzard’s servers that is now unfortunately tied up with silly privacy restrictions.
     
    Step 1: Make RealId for Friends lists
    Step 2: Make it mandatory for forums
    Step 3: Declare RealId “public information that Blizzard owns”
    Step 4: Sell database to all interested parties.

  • http://www.opensourcedesigner.org DrewC

    I agree that Blizzard’s real failure here is in inadequate opt out ability.  Like most changes that cause a huge uproar the vast majority of players don’t care.  In this case, there is a non-trivial minority who REALLY REALLY cares.  Like quit the game forever cares.  Blizzard really needs to serve those people on some level.  If enough people fall into the “won’t play games with RealID” camp they will drag their friends who don’t care with them.  I have no idea how large that minority is, but it exists.  I know that if I go back to WoW the first thing I will do is make sure RealID is turned off (because I do not need players of my current/future games asking me about my WoW character).  If I can’t satisfactorily do this, I will not play (or make a new account with fake information).
    As a developer of non-WoW MMORPGs I personally see this as a great thing, one more class of people turned off by WoW and available to play my games.

  • http://trollshaman.blogspot.com Klepsacovic

    I can see why Facebook would be based on real identities.  That is the foundation of it; our lives.  WoW is based on our virtual lives.  For many this is an escape, removing that is one of the few things that can kill WoW.

  • dartwick

    This was a real post on the official EVE forums once from some Eastern European guy.
    http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1184263/page/2
    “I had occasion with another much older char to threaten an eve player with actual real life threats. He lived in a small village about 30 mins away from me if I traveld using my bike. I know his first name and I knew his eve friend lived close to him and was the manager of the local village shop. So he would not be hard to find.

    This guy made my eve life absolute hell for some time, simply because his 0.0 paranoia got the better of him and he accused me of being a spy. But what I realised was this. I have a life and eve is just a game so I played him at his own game and made some problems for him. Yes I got angry yes i wanted to go to him and beat the life out of him, but eve is just a game and where as I didant enjoy the experiance at the time I now look back on it as a fond memory, because I had the last laugh in the end.
    very offten these guys can dish it out but they can’t take it. ”
     
     
    Theyre out there.
     

  • http://www.opensourcedesigner.org DrewC
  • Iconic

    I cancelled my WoW account today and cancelled my Starcraft 2 pre order.  I don’t expect that the loss of my business matters in the least to Blizzard, but I can’t possibly pay them to rape my privacy.  I don’t expect to purchase or play any Blizzard games until I’m not only sure that they’re never going to share my private info, but also until I’m sure that whoever okayed RealID in the first place is no longer employed at Blizzard.
    In my mind, RealID is on par with the NGE.  It’s one of those moments where I literally do not have the words to convey the depth of my contempt, and I cannot fathom how any responsible human being could make such a decision.  Welcome to Blizzarro world!

  • Boanerges

    Strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
     
    How about a nice game of chess?

  • Sean

    Scott, so…what are you going to do if this goes live? If you still have an active WoW account, will you cancel it? If you have an SCII preorder, are you going to cancel it? In the end, what will make companies stop doing things like this is if it’s financially damaging to do so. Facebook is “free”, so it’s much harder to do something that would seem to impact their bottom line. This is arguably the first opportunity in this class of privacy “adjustments” where it’s easy to make a financial impact on the perpetrator.
    So if you don’t like what Blizzard is doing, tell them (obviously this is happening on the forums which is good).. and if they don’t pull back, quit. Take the IV out of your arm, stop feeding them your $15/mo.
    In the end, it’s taking responsibility for the consequences of your actions. You need to evaluate whether playing WoW and posting on forums or whatever is worth the privacy loss. If it’s not, the solution is simple.
    As for me personally, I don’t particularly like what they’re doing, but I’m planning on not utilizing those features that will expose more data than I want, if it makes it to production. *shrug*

  • Vetarnias

    It’s already bad enough that what I hear all around is people getting their WoW accounts hacked.  I’d have thought they were careless people who fell for some phishing scam; but lately I heard that this happened from someone I know, a tech-savvy guy who stopped playing a while back.  If there was a security breach, he assured me, it was from Blizzard’s end, and I tend to believe him. He also said that the customer support he got from Blizzard over the issue was stellar.
    However, Actiblizzard is just asking for trouble with this one, but again it’s all a matter of how much they can get away with. First it was the Battle.net forced merger, then the $25 horsie, and now this. (Strangely enough, the Armory didn’t really bother me, as I never was into that e-peen stroking “leet” mentality that seems to permeate the game.) First you can only “opt out” by pretty much playing WoW as a single-player game (don’t snicker if I say it would be quite appropriate), then you’re forced to forgo forum interaction altogether. So even forget about asking that troubleshooting question that some other player might know about.
    Me, I’m being quite philosophical.  I cancelled sometime in early 2009. I never merged my WoW account with a Battle.net account (I never had one of the latter); I usually post a lot on game forums, but I never did so on the WoW forums; I’m not even on Facebook, in the event of Battle.net 2.0; and I certainly won’t return to WoW after this. If my real name creeps out through any property of Actiblizzard, I file a complaint with our Privacy Commissioner.
    I reserve my ire, however, for all those WoW players playing the ostrich, who won’t see where this is leading them, or, worse, know what it involves and welcome it anyway. Their pathetic self-gratification will apparently forgive Actiblizzard anything, as long as they can continue to play their beloved WoW.

  • http://geldonsgaming.blogspot.com geldonyetich

    Geeze, if gamers are regarded as such creepy little dirtbags that people fear what would happen when they find out their real name, maybe this is a positive change.  Either to tempt the scum out of their hole to commit their vices so law enforcement can properly put them away, or to reveal that (contrary to what conservative radio is telling you) basement dwellers who play WoW are not in fact the type to be lurking behind foliage waiting for a chance to molest your family.  Forcing a little accountability into a society of paranoid spendthrifts may be for the better.

  • Vetarnias

    Geldon, “having nothing to hide” doesn’t mean you must be willing to expose all about yourself, to everyone.
    Remember, I object to voice chat for privacy reasons.

  • Joe

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    GF Blizzard, wasn’t close.
    News update:

    It seems like one of the mods posted their RL name to prove he had nothing to hide.

    Right now, people are making fun of him for living with his mum, what movies he likes and are posting photos of his house.

    Thank you Google.

  • Dblade

    Geldon, they are that creepy. Enough are. I could tell you a few horror stories about Champions Online, for one. Considering WoW has 2000% more people I’m sure they have plenty more.

    This is the 4chan generation. I’m honestly surprised more people aren’t worried.

  • Iconic

    geldonyetich: Geeze, if gamers are regarded as such creepy little dirtbags that people fear what would happen when they find out their real name, maybe this is a positive change.  Either to tempt the scum out of their hole to commit their vices so law enforcement can properly put them away, or to reveal that (contrary to what conservative radio is telling you) basement dwellers who play WoW are not in fact the type to be lurking behind foliage waiting for a chance to molest your family.  Forcing a little accountability into a society of paranoid spendthrifts may be for the better.

     

    I’m going to assume you’re either trolling or just playing devil’s advocate.

  • http://geldonsgaming.blogspot.com geldonyetich

    Iconic: I’m going to assume you’re either trolling or just playing devil’s advocate.

    I never troll, but I do play devil’s advocate through necessity of intellectual integrity. I ask you this: what kind of society do we live in that we need fear our neighbors learn our names? That screwed up and in need of resolution.
    But then, I’m the type to get into the daily traffic jam that many people regard in a, “well, that’s life” way and instead think to myself, “geeze, what an inefficient and badly designed mess this is.”

  • http://twitter.com/D_0ne D-0ne

    Everyone is missing the big elephant in the room.  All Facebook, myspace, yahoo, google, and Blizzard et al are saying is, *YOU* aren’t important.  I guess we’ve all known that all along.  Did you just need a reminder?
    You don’t matter.  Now your demographic and controlling that demographic that’s another story.

  • Informis

    “what kind of society do we live in that we need fear our neighbors learn our names?”
    Well.  For starters, what right do you have to know my name?  What if I don’t want you to know it (and I still want to use the forums to organize raids or recruit for my guild)?  Why do you want to know my name?  What possible use is it to you?
    About that last one…  Sure, real names allow Good People to recognize previously encountered douchebags on sight and avoid them, but they allow Bad People to locate and torment the Good People.  The upside for Good People is approximately jack squat, because it’s already not that hard to avoid previously encountered jerks in-game without real names.  The upside for Bad People is far greater (e.g. zero social engineering effort to determine someone’s name).  It streamlines the harassment workflow and offers little in return.

  • VPellen

    It’s probably not going to be long before having your name in-game is mandatory. You don’t go from a base social system to names on forums and then just casually decide to stop there. They’re going somewhere with this, and for some strange reason I doubt they’re planning on stopping.

    All these years I’ve been waiting for the WoW killer. It never occurred to me to entertain the possibility of a WoW suicide.

  • http://www.psychochild.org/ Brian ‘Psychochild’ Green

    I’ve chosen to share my “real name” on most of my internet postings.  Let me say, it has caused me some grief in the past.  I think I’m lucky that my given name is relatively common so it’s not overly easy to track me down offline.  But, it’s not something I’d recommend for most people.
    Let me throw a little more rain on this parade.  This is what happens when a big company like Activision decides that it’s time to make more money from you.  You can be absolutely sure that this was motivated by money on some level, either as a way to get people afraid to post flames and crap on the boards to hire less moderators, or to start mining data as you tie your game habits to your Facebook account.
    So, anyone here still think EA’s SWtOR is going to be the best game ever?

  • Docmdnite

    Ya know I posted several time on this site defending Real ID for in game. This though I can NOT defend, not at ALL. I have been faithful to WoW, even though some changes I didn’t think were the best. This is the back breaker to me.
     
    Someone on this site posted
     
    http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni
     
    and it really does prove the point very well. So much so this Micah Whipple had to delete his facebook on account of it. Perhaps first hand experience to one of their own will cause them to reconsider…but I doubt it. This has probably been in the works for a VERY long time and even a protest thread 800 pages long won’t change their corporate minds.

  • http://geldonsgaming.blogspot.com geldonyetich

    I’ve said more than my share in regards to RealID. So…

    Brian ‘Psychochild’ Green:So, anyone here still think EA’s SWtOR is going to be the best game ever?

    Following standard MMORPG hype logic, I’ve yet to played it and it hasn’t been released yet, and therefore it’s the best game ever.

  • http://stabbedup.blogspot.com/ Stabs

    “if there really is a reason people should be worried, I’d rather make it public than give them false peace of mind.”
    Geldon, I’m not trying to pick on you but you were pretty much F13′s punchbag for a while. Why would you want the personnel officer at the awesome company you just had a great job interview with to be able to read the arguments you had there and see the way you didn’t fit in?
    Remember folks, if there’s bad shit about you on the internet, it’s not just for Christmas, it’s for life. Your grandchildren will be laughing at you in 50 years.

  • Iconic

    geldonyetich: I never troll, but I do play devil’s advocate through necessity of intellectual integrity.I ask you this: what kind of society do we live in that we need fear our neighbors learn our names?That screwed up and in need of resolution. But then, I’m the type to get into the daily traffic jam that many people regard in a, “well, that’s life” way and instead think to myself, “geeze, what an inefficient and badly designed mess this is.”

     

    It’s not my neighbor who concerns me, since I know my neigbbor as well as he knows me. It’s the random sociopath on the internet that’s decided to take out his frustrations on me, even though I’ve never heard of him, that concerns me.

    It’s the future boss 10 years down the line whose worst enemy in the world played WoW and now has an unconscious bias against all WoW players who concerns me.

    It’s the cute girl I met at a bar, who decides to google me, and because I am an intensely private person, doesn’t see my professional achievements or charitable works, but the post I made reminding ret paladins that they’re a spec, not a class.

    That information about me can be used, misused and abused by any, without my knowledge or consent, and once that genie is out of the bottle it’s virtually impossible to put it back in.

    Does it say some thing poor about our society? I don’t know. I don’t know if people are any more evil than they’ve ever been, but I do know that thanks to the internet, we have access to an exponentially greater field of information and services than we did even a decade ago. Small bits of information that would have previously been useless can now be colated and used as the handle to open a door to so many scary possibilities, and not much technical savvy is even required.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sjennings Scott Jennings

    Stop trolling Geldon.
    Stop trolling, Geldon.

  • http://geldonsgaming.blogspot.com geldonyetich

    I see what you did there, what with the pretending you’re Scott Jennings thingy, as the real fellow’s name would be colored like so.  But, when the real Scott Jennings gets up, I would appreciate it if he goes back and prunes my last few messages, as clearly I went a bit overboard.

  • Scott Jennings

    I see what you did there, what with the pretending you’re Scott Jennings thingy, as the real fellow’s name would be colored like so

    Bzzt. Wrong answer. I wasn’t logged into the admin account.

    My requests remain.

    (and quite a few geldon-centric posts do not.)

  • Larry Lard

    When I see stuff like this I thank Tunare that I burned out on dikumuds before they got serious.
     
    I’m the only person in the world with my name. Is it surprising that maybe, just maybe, I want to be careful with my identity online?
     

  • Buur

    It’s times like these that I wish I still ran a crappy rant site.

  • http://beafraid.com hellfire

    This whole fiasco has really prompted me to re-examine privacy as it relates to me, myself and I. I get PAID to think about this stuff for other people, yet I can’t think of a time when I’ve actually sat down and figured out what data I exposing to the world and how I feel about that exposure. I’m pretty sure my Facebook account is going to be closed. For whatever reason I just feel safer with only the stuff I choose to write about in my blog being queried, collated and saved for eternity by the Google MCP. I’ll probably keep Twitter as well, since there’s some pretty hilarious people filling my 140-character-at-a-time attention span.
     
    Needless to say, I’m glad I canceled my WoW account and at this point any excitement that those really awesome Starcraft 2 mods had generated has been squashed. I wouldn’t call it a boycott, but I don’t intend to give Blizzard any more information than they already have about me, let alone more money. No SC2, no D3, no WoW and certainly no “new unknown IP MMO that’s been in dev since Burning Crusade launched”.
     
    I’m still not sure how this is legal even for a voluntary service. If AT&T decided to tell my neighbors what TV shows I had on my DVR without my consent or option to opt-out they’d have the FTC/FCC up their ass sideways for violating their users.

  • http://twitter.com/Loredena Loredena

    Like Larry Lard above, I’m the only person in the world with my name.   As a bonus, I’m female — and even though I’m married and decidely middle-aged, I’ve been harassed in games.  I have an online persona for a reason — I have no intention of making it easy for in-game harassment to translate to real-life harassment.  I also have no desire for a current or future employer to run a casual search on my name and find anything and everything I’ve ever posted on the net — yet, I do want those who know me only on the net to find a consistent persona.  I’m happy with anyone I know solely via a game to find me in other games, or game-related postings.  I just don’t want someone I gamed wtih 10 years ago being able to find me in ‘meatspace’ on a whim, without my knowledge or consent.

  • Brask Mumei

    I guess the silver lining is that I know to use fake info when I sign up to SC2 and D3.

  • Brian Aloisio

    I guess I’m a traitor to the internet, but I like this idea.

  • http://www.whysohostile.com Cymbaline

    VPellen: All these years I’ve been waiting for the WoW killer. It never occurred to me to entertain the possibility of a WoW suicide.

    Normally I rather loathe the “quoted for truth” or “+1″ thing, but, well, that is basically my sentiment here.

    Just adding to the chorus, but I find this to be indefensible and a horrible move. I quit WoW a few years ago, and have no intention of going back, but this helps solidify my position. The worries, now, are Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3. Between lack of LAN and things like this, I’ll probably skip Starcraft 2. Boycott it, if I feel like grandstanding. Admittedly, part of that is because I don’t care that much about SC2. Diablo 3, however… That I want to play pretty bad. Boycotting that would hurt. I guess if nothing else, as Brask says, I’ll use fake info when I sign up for B.Net with my copy of D3.

  • tannenburg

    I can see the trajectory of events now.

    Step 1. Nutbar stalks Innocent Blond Telegenic Teenager Who Plays WoW exposed by this RealID program and kills and/or rapes her.

    Step 2. Parents of Teenager appear on CNN, MSN, and FOX and decry those Greasy Asocial Wierdos who Play Videogames.

    Step 3. Media goes salivatingly insane about the “WoW Killers” and spins entire tapestries of hysteria about video games and the evil, evil, evil people who like them.

    Step 4. Parents sue Blizzard.  Blizzard hauled before a Senate hearing.

    Step 5. Everyone forgets about the Teenager mentioned in Step 1. above and the media insanity multiplies beyond reason.

    Step 6. Blizzard settles out-of-court and announces “privacy modifications” to their RealID program.

    Step 7. Furor dies down except for the lingering reinforcement of most non-gamers’ opinion that gamers are evil, evil, evil asocial unwashed living-in-basements wierdos.

    Step 8. Some time passes.  *Generic Game Company* tries to sell the same crap about leveraging demographic assets (read: people) inside a new box under a new label.

    Step 9.  Repeat 1-8.

    Seriously – did none of Blizzard’s staff talk to a liability or privacy rights attorney?  Did they not think this might be a problem?
     

  • Sleepysam

    I am curious if Scott has any thoughts on how to combat this change, successfully, given his experience in the industry?  My guess is that the deal with facebook is in the can (google facebook blizzard activision) so there is no going back.  The plan appears to be to pull us onto our real names, and then use us to recruit more players from facebook.  In the long run, you can certainly see the logic of it, despite the fact that it ruins the anonymity that many of us cherish in our games.
    My only thoughts are:
    1. complain to ESRB
    2. complain to BBB
    3. send a pile of links to the tech reporters at various media outlets and hope people get interested
    4. cancel all things Blizzard/Activision

  • Otis

    That thread is now 1113 pages if anyone is counting. That page had a great point too; the tech support forum mods will ask you to post a traceroute if you’re having connectivity issues. So now someone has your ISP and your full name if they want to stalk you. Even if you don’t have a pretty unique name (like me) that’s one more piece of info that can narrow down which John or Jane Doe you are.

  • http://percentsign20.com/ Cal

    I’ve been baffled by how I’m on the complete other side of this discussion and it took a much smarter man than I, to quote an NPR piece, about a book, about another man much smarter than I for me to understand it.
    I philosophically agree with Zuckerberg on honesty.
    When I hear stories about jobs not wanting MMO players, especially from MMO players in said jobs, I don’t think of how silly developers are, I think of how sad it is that people are being stupid and other people being forced to lie to get a paycheck.
    I still think that this is a tempest in a tea cup for everyone who doesn’t actively use the official forums, but I can now be sound in my understanding that it’s simply a matter of disagreeing-about-first-principles.

  • Ashendarei

    just as an FYI, they’re almost to 24 hours on this announcement now, and have over 22k replies in their sticky, and probably another 5k at least in deleted threads.

    God only knows what the EU site thread is at now that they’re in their primetime and getting a chance to see it.

  • Idealist

    Here’s more great news. Do you have a WoW account? Well apparently you’ve already opted into the RealID system by default, because you’re a RealID friend of yourself.
    http://www.wow.com/2010/07/06/security-flaw-allows-addons-to-expose-full-real-life-names-witho/
    Happily, your info is also available to malicious addons!

  • A Man In Black

    >(and quite a few geldon-centric posts do not.)
    Fair enough.

  • hitnrun

    Actually, the comparison isn’t even fair to Zuckerberg. Facebook, at least, is a network for people who know each other in real life. What Blizzard is doing is at least as outrageous and contemptible as Facebook making available your paladin’s name, race, and spec on your Info page.
     

  • Brad

    Just the other day, I was signing up as a developer for a certain other company, and I was required to choose an alias to use for their developer’s forum to protect my privacy.  It’s amazing the contrast between that and RealID.
    I guess it’s now officially at the point where you could have more privacy at work than at home.  :(
     

  • http://twitter.com/jnfr jnfr

    I went into my own account and turned on parental controls for my child self so that Real ID is off in-game. Stupid money-grubbing corporations. Thrakin hit their motivation on the head in the first comment.