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	<title>Comments on: EA: It&#8217;s In The Game (The Unemployment Line, Specifically)</title>
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		<title>By: geldonyetich</title>
		<link>http://brokentoys.org/2009/11/09/ea-its-in-the-game-the-unemployment-line-specifically/comment-page-2/#comment-36429</link>
		<dc:creator>geldonyetich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually did try to find some civil service work not too long ago.

You know how they used to have a civil service exam you take to determine placement?

They replaced it with a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usajobs.gov/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;monster.com-like job board&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s a pretty handy method to ignore the majority of their applicants. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually did try to find some civil service work not too long ago.</p>
<p>You know how they used to have a civil service exam you take to determine placement?</p>
<p>They replaced it with a <a href="http://www.usajobs.gov/" rel="nofollow">monster.com-like job board</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pretty handy method to ignore the majority of their applicants. <img src='http://brokentoys.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://brokentoys.org/2009/11/09/ea-its-in-the-game-the-unemployment-line-specifically/comment-page-2/#comment-36428</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@geldo: Trust me, just aim for the bureaucratic industries. Which of course includes government (except those political appointment positions, those change with every election shift of course). Preferably federal government, it seems state government in the US seem to have the bad habit of screwing themselves by ratcheting up obligations while ratcheting down taxes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@geldo: Trust me, just aim for the bureaucratic industries. Which of course includes government (except those political appointment positions, those change with every election shift of course). Preferably federal government, it seems state government in the US seem to have the bad habit of screwing themselves by ratcheting up obligations while ratcheting down taxes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://brokentoys.org/2009/11/09/ea-its-in-the-game-the-unemployment-line-specifically/comment-page-2/#comment-36427</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tremayne: I do prefer a more flexible system, as long as there is credible opportunity for retraining should an entire industry&#039;s labour pool suddenly become outdated.

Germany has managed to avoid the increasing unemployment that has hit the US, despite also being hit by the economic crisis, in part thanks to its pro-employment laws.

I&#039;m well aware of the downsides in the French model, not just to those who get screwed by it, but also to the quality of the service provided by people who can&#039;t be punished, or by the inflexibility of people who don&#039;t want to cross lines at their employer that, being a life job, will screw them forever. (See, it&#039;s even bad for those with lifetime jobs, and their customers... although less so than for those without good jobs.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tremayne: I do prefer a more flexible system, as long as there is credible opportunity for retraining should an entire industry&#8217;s labour pool suddenly become outdated.</p>
<p>Germany has managed to avoid the increasing unemployment that has hit the US, despite also being hit by the economic crisis, in part thanks to its pro-employment laws.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m well aware of the downsides in the French model, not just to those who get screwed by it, but also to the quality of the service provided by people who can&#8217;t be punished, or by the inflexibility of people who don&#8217;t want to cross lines at their employer that, being a life job, will screw them forever. (See, it&#8217;s even bad for those with lifetime jobs, and their customers&#8230; although less so than for those without good jobs.)</p>
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		<title>By: geldonyetich</title>
		<link>http://brokentoys.org/2009/11/09/ea-its-in-the-game-the-unemployment-line-specifically/comment-page-2/#comment-36423</link>
		<dc:creator>geldonyetich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, amongst those to get the axe from EA?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/96185-Pandemic-Studios-Shuts-Down&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pandemic Studios, apparently.&lt;/a&gt;   

Makers of Battlezone 2, Star Wars: Battlefront, and the Mercenaries series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, amongst those to get the axe from EA?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/96185-Pandemic-Studios-Shuts-Down" rel="nofollow">Pandemic Studios, apparently.</a>   </p>
<p>Makers of Battlezone 2, Star Wars: Battlefront, and the Mercenaries series.</p>
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		<title>By: Tremayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tremayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy - not sure about the situation in Germany, but certainly in France all the laws restricting firing of staff have had an effect: companies are reluctant to hire people in the first place on anything other than short term contracts (which are exempt from said laws). Net result is that while older French workers have great job security, an awful lot of young people cannot get any kind of decent job at all, and this was a major cause of rioting a couple of years back.

Anglo-saxon model = moderate insecurity and suckage for everybody.
(continental) European model = good news for some and a royal screwing over for others. 

Matter of personal preference which system you think is worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy &#8211; not sure about the situation in Germany, but certainly in France all the laws restricting firing of staff have had an effect: companies are reluctant to hire people in the first place on anything other than short term contracts (which are exempt from said laws). Net result is that while older French workers have great job security, an awful lot of young people cannot get any kind of decent job at all, and this was a major cause of rioting a couple of years back.</p>
<p>Anglo-saxon model = moderate insecurity and suckage for everybody.<br />
(continental) European model = good news for some and a royal screwing over for others. </p>
<p>Matter of personal preference which system you think is worse.</p>
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		<title>By: geldonyetich</title>
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		<dc:creator>geldonyetich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it heads, tails, or a coin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it heads, tails, or a coin?</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly people change jobs a lot more these days. Since there is less job security now, there&#039;s less incentive to stick with a company if it&#039;s not that great for you. I&#039;m not arguing things aren&#039;t worse, all I&#039;m saying is there is still job security to be found in certain areas/companies/countries/whatever. It&#039;s not nonexistent, but it&#039;s not all like short-term software cycle development, which is what the gaming software industry is. Get into something more bureaucratic, and things move a lot slower. 

And certainly luck plays a large part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly people change jobs a lot more these days. Since there is less job security now, there&#8217;s less incentive to stick with a company if it&#8217;s not that great for you. I&#8217;m not arguing things aren&#8217;t worse, all I&#8217;m saying is there is still job security to be found in certain areas/companies/countries/whatever. It&#8217;s not nonexistent, but it&#8217;s not all like short-term software cycle development, which is what the gaming software industry is. Get into something more bureaucratic, and things move a lot slower. </p>
<p>And certainly luck plays a large part.</p>
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		<title>By: geldonyetich</title>
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		<dc:creator>geldonyetich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You define job security as your employer not being *able* to fire you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I didn&#039;t mean to imply that you should be able to get away with murder, but rather that today&#039;s corporate management policies are such that job security is an illusion.

So long as they are able to fire you without repercussions, what guarantee is there really that you would make a lifetime career at one company?  You can find examples of people whose careers turned out that way, sure, but what proof do you have that you&#039;re not simply nitpicking the lucky out of the unlucky?

Maybe I&#039;m biased because, everywhere I turn, I&#039;m being taught that the modern worker does not bank on keeping any job for long.  I think a person who has been more fortunate in their job opportunities would hold a contrasting view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You define job security as your employer not being *able* to fire you?</p></blockquote>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that you should be able to get away with murder, but rather that today&#8217;s corporate management policies are such that job security is an illusion.</p>
<p>So long as they are able to fire you without repercussions, what guarantee is there really that you would make a lifetime career at one company?  You can find examples of people whose careers turned out that way, sure, but what proof do you have that you&#8217;re not simply nitpicking the lucky out of the unlucky?</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m biased because, everywhere I turn, I&#8217;m being taught that the modern worker does not bank on keeping any job for long.  I think a person who has been more fortunate in their job opportunities would hold a contrasting view.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You define job security as your employer not being *able* to fire you? I don&#039;t think that&#039;s what job security used to mean when it was common. It just meant you could reliably make a lifetime career at one company. Although, come to think of it, unions would make it hard to lay people off, and unions used to be stronger, so there is that.

Interesting fact, though: in Germany, there *are* laws that make it less desirable to lay off workers, and encourages them to keep them on as part-time workers if they really need to save money. Companies in France are also far less likely to lay off workers. This has benefits to international divisions of certain European companies located in the US.

Industries where you are less likely to be fired due to the size of the organizations are typically industries that depend on large government contracts, such as aerospace, defense, and infrastructure. Infrastructure should do well now, since stimulus funding is easiest to justify for large government-funded infrastructure contracts, which are always useful (especially considering the US&#039;s infrastructure, of any kind, be it roads, bridges, or electrical grids, are long overdue for overhauls). These fields are all far less volatile than, say, the gaming industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You define job security as your employer not being *able* to fire you? I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s what job security used to mean when it was common. It just meant you could reliably make a lifetime career at one company. Although, come to think of it, unions would make it hard to lay people off, and unions used to be stronger, so there is that.</p>
<p>Interesting fact, though: in Germany, there *are* laws that make it less desirable to lay off workers, and encourages them to keep them on as part-time workers if they really need to save money. Companies in France are also far less likely to lay off workers. This has benefits to international divisions of certain European companies located in the US.</p>
<p>Industries where you are less likely to be fired due to the size of the organizations are typically industries that depend on large government contracts, such as aerospace, defense, and infrastructure. Infrastructure should do well now, since stimulus funding is easiest to justify for large government-funded infrastructure contracts, which are always useful (especially considering the US&#8217;s infrastructure, of any kind, be it roads, bridges, or electrical grids, are long overdue for overhauls). These fields are all far less volatile than, say, the gaming industry.</p>
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		<title>By: geldonyetich</title>
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		<dc:creator>geldonyetich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they clarified where such demand existed in this country, methinks the supply would not be lacking for long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they clarified where such demand existed in this country, methinks the supply would not be lacking for long.</p>
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