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Hyperbole In Game Theory Part 117
In today’s episode of “Hyperbole in Game Theory”, Gevlon the Goblin comes to a horrifying realization!
The success of the completely unfair, M&S [Gevlonese for "morons and idiots", aka everyone not Gevlon] catering, always-nerfed WoW over Starcraft, EVE, Darkfall is the ultimate proof that most people are just too stupid for a free-market system.
Well, there you have it. But wait, the explanation? It’s better.
Commenters use to write “you must give welfare to the real world poor or they revolt”. I found it silly and used to handle it with “make sure the cops have enough ammo”. I meant it literally. My guess was that the RL M&S who are too skilless to do any jobs, are a little minority, like 10%. Let the cops handle them, they won’t be missed.
Not anymore.
The problem is not that the useless M&S would starve. They wouldn’t be missed.
The problem is that in the current level of education and the cultural value of learning, the useful/useless boundary is simply too high. You cannot discard 20-30% of the population and you cannot let other 40-50% live in low wages. They won’t accept it and they are just too many to handle by cops.
Yes, there’s so many casuals in World of Warcraft that we just can’t shoot them all.
And God knows, I’ve wanted to.
Tune in next week for “Hyperbole in Game Theory”, when Blizzard’s nerfing Death Knight tanking is held responsible for the collapse of Latvia’s currency.
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about 1 year ago
I predict an early Godwin’s Law victory for Gevlon.
about 1 year ago
It’s official: when the Shadowrun apocalypse brings magic back to the earth, we’ll find the Goblins amongst the neocons.
about 1 year ago
“Ayn Rand Died For Your Sins”
about 1 year ago
“I predict an early Godwin’s Law victory for Gevlon.”
Unforuntately, there are a lot of similaraties involved.
It makes me queezy to see someone say that any % of the population is “useless and won’t be missed” reguardless of the context.
See the last 3 minutes of Rope and Jimmy Stewart’s speech for my feelings on the issue.
about 1 year ago
“Ayn Rand Died For Your Sins” A brand, new tag just for Gevlon. WOOT.
Now, seriously, hes right in hating the guys that are perfectly fine and yet they live off of welfare and dont even try searching a job.
BTW, running lots of heroics (easy content), doesnt make you hardcore, it makes you addicted, moron. But your suscription its worth money to Blizz, so they reward you with pimp gear that you dont really need for being addicted. In that he is absolutely right.
But, as usual, theres a lot of hate in his writings without any need. I think that its the why so many people disagree with him. And study of MMOs as a controlled social enviroment its valid, even if its just rantings, i mean, observations.
about 1 year ago
The most damning thing is that a self-styled free market objectivist seems honestly confused why an MMO would make things easier and not penalize death.
about 1 year ago
Meh. Why even give this guy the time of day?
about 1 year ago
I can see it now, if Ayn Rand were alive today: “Okay, in *this* chapter, we look at the real lives of each of the 25 people involved in the upcoming raid wipe, and show how each of them had it coming….”
about 1 year ago
Gevlon is undoubtedly a fan of National League baseball. The designated hitter rule is clearly a nerf catering to M&S pitchers.
about 1 year ago
Starcraft MMO? Did I miss that one?
about 1 year ago
Gevlon has a strong grasp on auction house manipulation, sure, but I do not believe I am using Hyperbole when I say he is a horrible human being.
about 1 year ago
well, I’ll give him this.
He has a firm enough grasp of the market in WoW to make money very quickly in WoW. Where I disagree with him (purely in WoW) is that his achievements in gold making would not be possible without that large number of casuals who either don’t understand the market, or don’t want to bother spending the time taking advantage of it. If 90% of the players were smart about making money in WoW it would become exponentially more difficult to do so any faster than the next guy. It isn’t that he has figured out how to make gold (that part is easy), it is that he is very apt at making large amounts with a disproportionate amount of time investment.
Real world opinions of his I’ll stay away from. Met all types, and understand we all have different values…that’s fine. I think he is completely wrong comparing the jobless with those playing a game who have simply set their priorities differently. there’s a huge difference between the MMO player who plays a couple hours a week happily achieving little and the WoW player complaining that everything in game is to expensive (and thus unfair). I think he hears the latter and lops both groups together.
As for the type of human being he is… I find I can’t judge anyone by their blog. Often opinions on a blog end up not reflecting their actions in life (from the few bloggers I have met). The few Billy badasses I have met turned out to be very giving/nice people when I got to talk to them face to face.
about 1 year ago
The truly amazing part is he continues to plan in the kiddie pool of MMO economies and continues to claim victory. Making gold in WoW is so easy because most don’t care about it, they will gladly overpay for something on the AH because they can, with little effort, get that gold back. That and the fact that gold overall matters very little.
Now, if Gevlon ranked in the top 10 ISK holders, that would be something, but hitting the WoW gold limit years after others have already do it, well that’s just M&S stuff.
about 1 year ago
He has a strong grasp on a make-believe economy because he can’t get a strong grasp on real life.
about 1 year ago
Gevlon is a persona – he just says this stuff to get attention and a laugh. Don’t take it too seriously
about 1 year ago
I stopped reading after he wrote: “As most readers noticed I’m a big supporter of ideas similar to Ayn Rand’s. Too bad it doesn’t really work in the real life, despite no logical faults are included.”
(Getting a clue 101: If it doesn’t work in real life, it’s not people who suck: it’s the theory that sucks.)
about 1 year ago
Pizza flavored milkshake, represent.
about 1 year ago
Gevlon often speaks about WoW as of nothing more than a proxy for the real world. Even though he never (often?) doesn’t acknowledge that maybe he is an M&S for some very skilled individual, his point is interesting… How can we all be happy if we adopt the same measure of happiness (raid progress, money as proxies) and we have free markets and we aren’t equally good at “being happy”?
Actually in that post he reached the conclusion that you can’t just shoot people that are M&S compared to you, which should be a cause for celebration for those people who are sometimes shocked by his opinions.
Of course he promises he won’t become a “socialist” because of this realisation, but at least I think he’s a on a path that leads to better acceptance of *reality* and will perhaps move on to write about it without the need for arbitrary WoW allegories (and without calling for shootouts).
about 1 year ago
Lets give him the guns and see how many he can shoot, hell we can even line them up for him. Talk is cheap.
about 1 year ago
Now, now, he’s not saying he’ll shoot anyone. He’s saying it’s the cops’ job to mass-murder those darn unproductive minorities.
To Protect And Serve.
about 1 year ago
He’s such a dope. I’m convinced he’s playing a role on that blog, because nobody could be so utterly single-minded. But resolving his fantastically skewed view of the world is part of the fun.
about 1 year ago
If computer games help prove real-world points, I reserve the right to claim that Objectivism is a massive failure because BioShock said so.
Also: Counterstrike is a fair game? Really? Not when I played.
about 1 year ago
M&S catering? get some quite good food from M&S. Not the cheapest and they totally overpackage everything.
Hmm…
This is not just any gaming hyperbole – this is M&S gaming hyperbole.
(apologies to anyone not from the UK who won’t pick up any of that)
about 1 year ago
@We Fly Spitfires
You know, I used to pity his attitude and get all riled up reading his posts. Now though, I think he’s engaged in a Sasha Baron Cohen style social experiment and none of his rants are actually his thoughts on society. At least that’s how I sleep at night.
about 1 year ago
my head hurts. So, let me try to boil this down… Cops are there to deal with people who want your shit? Or is it Cops are there because cops like guns? and people with no money? Or some money?
HUH?!
about 1 year ago
He’s saying that people who had fallen below a certain earning threshold (say the lower 10% of the population) were little more than wastes of human life for which society would be better off having cops gun down and leave in a ditch.
But now because we’re dealing with way more than 10% of the population being below a certain earning threshold, due to the minimum qualification bar being set too high, he’s had a change of heart! The ditches would overflow with corpses, therefore, alternate solutions must be found! But, don’t worry, his change of heart isn’t going to turn him into a socialist.
Basically, he’s the typical ultra-conservative opening his mouth wide enough that the resemblance to Nazi Germany-style fascism is making itself more evident than usual.
about 1 year ago
Of course, in an Objectivist view government-funded police are a waste of resources, so it is likely Gevlon would prefer the M&S pay for their own executions.