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God DAMN, someone finally gets it.
Welcome, new generation. You’re gonna love it.
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God DAMN, someone finally gets it.
Welcome, new generation. You’re gonna love it.
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about 1 year ago
And just in time to throw a serious wrench in the Star Trek MMO plans. Not even Emmert’s bloated ego can overcome the huge disparity there is going to be between his half assed Trek and the vivid, bombastic direction the IP is going in now. Living long and prospering are two Vulcan virtues located light years away from ST:O.
about 1 year ago
Come on Octo, no one likes a negative Nancy.
about 1 year ago
Yeah, that was my reaction as well. I grew up on Trek and I’m STOKED for this.
about 1 year ago
Meh. While I love me some Gossip Girl, I prefer there to be a distance between the CW channel and Star Trek.
…at least the FX look good?
about 1 year ago
That’s actually kinda what I like about it – a return to the unashamed character-driven space opera of the original series. ST:NextGen was good (and DS9 was great) but it was also sometimes sterile, and Starfleet often seemed manned by odd transhuman creatures who no longer were the same species as ourselves.
Whereas this goes back to Kirk punching and seducing his way across the cosmos. It’s silly after a fashion – but it’s supposed to be.
about 1 year ago
Wait, Gossip Giel isn’t a Star Trek spin-off? My wife has been lying to me this whole time…
about 1 year ago
… Gossip Girl, rather
about 1 year ago
This is J.J. Abrams so…
Chance of main character being tortured while strapped to a scary-dentist’s chair: 99%
about 1 year ago
Call me a skeptic, but I had this impression of “Dawson’s Creek in Space” when watching the trailer…
about 1 year ago
I’m cautiously optimistic.
I remember geeking out in anticipation of Nemesis, but walking out of the theatre feeling as though I had been repeatedly kick in the junk.
I have no desire to relive that experience.
The fact that neither Berman nor Braga has any overt involvement does bode well, however.
about 1 year ago
Yeah I’m not so sure about this. After finishing the second trailer it really really felt like Star Trek 90210: Fast and the Furious. They’ll get my money anyway, but I’m allowed to be skeptical.
about 1 year ago
I like.
The main cognitive difficulty for a lot of folks, though, is that TNG wasn’t really ‘Star Trek’ – it was The Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner Show, guest-starring Michael Dorn. How soon we forget how painful the first season of TNG was until Stewart truly made the show his own; found his own voice, so to speak.
Then you have a couple of shows that emulate that pattern, DS:9 well, Voyager less so. Voyager, much like TNG, eventually found its own voice as well, just too late and on too small a network to capitalize on it.
This trailer, though, this is Star Trek. This is swashbuckling. This is the glory of exploration, the heady sense of manifest destiny in space. It’s about a time when we didn’t know enough to come up with stuff like the Prime Directive; it’s fumbling about and reveling in the mistakes.
It looks flawed, it looks chaotic, it looks rambunctious. It looks like Star Trek.
about 1 year ago
I dunno… I get sort of a Muppet Babies vibe off of it.
Will they show whatever tramatic event that happened to Kirk that made him become William Shatner?
about 1 year ago
I apologise for doing this here but …
*masturbates*
about 1 year ago
Looks cool – who knows?
about 1 year ago
I miss my space-western, Firefly. /mourn
about 1 year ago
yeah, that
about 1 year ago
Firefly had more than enough chances. Let it die already.
While I’m not exactly thrilled with the “you are the one” plot a lot of action movies center on these days, maybe there’s more to it we’re not seeing. If there’s going to be some real character driven story, there needs to be more than just neo saving the ship/humanity.
Oh and look, a non-humanoid alien!
about 1 year ago
Whoops! Look like someone mistook Star Trek for Chronicles of Riddick. Try again?
If only the fourth season of Enterprise had come quickly enough to save the franchise. By the time the show got good, no one was watching anymore.
about 1 year ago
… says the guy in a Star Trek thread.
Chill dude. I watched the trailer Scott linked and that’s what came to mind. I’m not asking you to sign a petition or anything.
about 1 year ago
I’m sorry, but this trailer plus the New York Times blog writeup make this movie look like a goofy wreck. It looks Speed Racer stupid.
about 1 year ago
Once again mainstream has found a way to infect our geekdom. Yeah I’m excited about seeing it but I fear something bad will happen to the franchise to just make it seem less appealing.
about 1 year ago
This movie better not disappoint or I’ll… I’ll… I’ll go home and nerdrage in front of the mirror for a bit before crying myself to sleep.
about 1 year ago
Riddick wasn’t about story, it was about the awesome scenery, action, and vin diesel being badass.
Which, you know, could be how this new star trek movie pans out.
about 1 year ago
I loved the trailers.
Anyone here watch the SciFi run of “Battle Star: Glactica”?
about 1 year ago
Oh and if you haven’t been watching BSG you can catch up here: http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/
about 1 year ago
I’m not sure if I can stand another disappointment after watching The Legend of the Seeker. I’m a stickler for some semblance of continuity. I don’t expect Abrams to follow canon note for note, but he best not stray too far.
The mostly likely scenario ends with me quietly seething with nerd rage in the theater as everyone else in the audience is whooping it up like it’s the second coming.
Jason (resident drunken idiot of Channel Massive)
about 1 year ago
And no…my gravatar says nothing about my passion for the show. Not one bit.
Jason (resident drunken idiot of Channel Massive)
about 1 year ago
Star Trek never really found itself. Trek floundered as much as it soared. Watch the first 2 years of TNG and you’ll see floundering galore, epitomized by the annoy Wesley Crusher going “We’re in Starfleet. We don’t lie”, in a moment even Wil Wheaton regrets. It wasn’t until the show was on the verge of cancellation that they finally said “Screw it! If we’re going out, we’re going out with a bang!” which produced The Best of Both Worlds (pt 1), some of the finest Trek out there. Instead of going with dopey plots they let the actors run the show (literally) and, suddenly, you have Patrick Stewart allowed to shine his talents. I think DS9 did the same until they realized that they needed to let Avery Brooks shine more. Voyager never got itself up because it had no strong lead (how it survived 7 seasons is beyond me). Enterprise had Scott Bakula but never got into better plots. It didn’t help that the show’s pilot featured a 90210 moment involving “Hey, you need to strip nearly naked in this dimly lit steamy room and rub this stuff all over your bodies. SLOWLY”. Insert eye roll here.
When you add in the cumulative effect of the (good) non-Trek sci-fi (B5, Firefly, BSG, Star Wars to some extent) you quickly find that the whole ST franchise simply got outclassed and Berman ran out of material. I felt the same way about Nemesis in that they squandered what could have been superb Trek and managed to make it suck as much as Phantom Menace did. The best Trek movie still remains The Undiscovered Country and I think a large part of that was not just better writing but better casting as well (major props to whomever got Christopher Plummer to do that role). Add in some old school “cowboy diplomacy” and you had a major winner. Stinks that TNG never got anything even close to that good since the cast was still solid.
But D-One has a good point. BSG is supposedly going to restart in January with the end of the series. Season 4 was weird but it found itself and left on a massive cliffhanger. If they end it well, the Trek movie is going to have a very harsh audience and if it is “Dawson’s Trek” it will go down in flames. It will do well at the box office for the aforementioned but the all-but-certain sequel will fail. If BSG ends poorly (given Season 3′s wackiness, this remains to be seen) then Trek will fare much better.
All I have to say is, J. Michael Straczynski, wherefore art thou?
about 1 year ago
Looks terrible. Every one of those actors is 10 years too young.
about 1 year ago
My bet:
Abrams turns it into another Lost/BSG where everything is shock value, there’s just the next episode and how edgy it is, and there’s no actual story anywhere or character development. Just killing off characters to show how awesome and unpredictable the show is, and bringing up massive questions and huge plot devices that are promptly forgotten about. I’m guessing it’ll be an edge-of-the-seat movie that everyone will love while they’re watching (including me), but when asked a day later what the movie was actually about, nobody will know.
about 1 year ago
J. Michael Straczynski just had a movie out, directed by Clint Eastwood. It was a historical drama called “Changeling” which featured Angelina Jolie pouting a lot and wearing a flapper hat and the guy from Burn Notice being a total bastard, which is kind of how he’s been typecast for most of his career.
He’s also writing Thor for Marvel Comics and might be remaking Forbidden Planet for film. So he’s busy.
about 1 year ago
I totally see where those slashers are coming from now.
about 1 year ago
I must be missing something. Obnoxious kids and CGI masturbation? Looks like Phantom Menace all over again, but I’ll be delighted to be proven wrong.
about 1 year ago
wait a minute, Spock is a pacifist… and he allowed Kirk to antagonize him into a pummeling?? I dig the Heroes guy playing young Spock tho.
looking forward to this movie more than the last couple…
about 1 year ago
I saw this yesterday, and didn’t click on the link.. now I read the comments and i find myself curious, so I click on the link and what do I get? BAH Quicktime
clip goes unwatched for me.
also, /agree with Patrick Stewart really coming into his own in later seasons of TNG, I think Voyager did pretty well too with the “ooh shiny” crowd (as it was the first Star Trek series to use CG for their space scenes rather then models, iirc).
about 1 year ago
Um.
Fuck yeah. Thanks for the link, Scott.
about 1 year ago
@Ashendarai, go to the official site and you can watch the clip.
about 1 year ago
Shatner has something to add:
http://construed.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/the-new-face-of-star-trek-is-no-hero/
about 1 year ago
Original Series
If Kirk couldn’t make love to it, he fought it. If he couldn’t fight it, he blew it up with antimatter. Non descript security guy in a red shirt died at the start of every episode.
TNG
Prime Directive blah blah blah blah. They changed it from a tv show to a political statement.
DS9
Originally the Ferengi were supposed to be incredibly mean evil creatures but ended up becoming tiny Rodney Dangerfields with big ears. They changed the concept of the show from a political statement to an extreme political statement.
Voyager
You are all so bad I am forced to discipline you, but believe me it hurts me more than it will hurt you. Oh yah, men are evil pigs. The show totally sucked until they brought in a Borg woman with GIANT breast implants. They never did explain why the Borg needed giant breast implants either.
Enterprise
Never ever did bother watching it. Is it still on?
about 1 year ago
surprised no one’s noticed Sean Pauge’s spot on “I like this ship, things are exciting.”
now that’s a scottie i can belive in.
also, i can totally see Young Kirk breaking people’s shit because he could. Most of the time kirk was a dick, but was kinda doing people a favour.
like house, only with the ability to destroy worlds and travel through time.
oh and
Enterprise – we need to retcon everything and explain the inconcistances by starting the series out with a big ass time war, instead of starting small and then heading to the big reveal.
Enterprise – killed because no one wanted to take some time with it. if any of the treks needed to have the b5 “we’ve got a plan for x years already” doen it was this one, then they could have played around with the timeline and when the nerdrage came hard and heavy just sit back, smiled and said “wait a bit. you may not like it, but we promise it’ll make sense.”
also, the enterprise pair of episodes with the mirror world? pretty groovy.
also also, andorans fuckn’ rock (but only because they get Herbert West, Reanimator (jeffery combs) as thier signature character)
about 1 year ago
I will end up watching it, because i’m a fan. That being said, I don’t think this looks anything like old-school trek, and i’m shocked that anyone does. What it DOES look like is Startrek: The Frosted Hair Generation.
I do agree that the casting of Spock is very good, at least physically. I don’t know how great the writing will be.
about 1 year ago
Meh.
Sometimes something that has gone on for a long time, with the good and the bad, should just be able to rest. Or convalesce. Recycle what’s there without reinventing it.
These whole “re-imaginings” should stick to material that caught on, was short and never quite lived up to its promise in the first time (ala Battlestar Galactica). Leave the successful with umpteen spinoffs out of it. =P
about 1 year ago
It’s important to distinguish between “reimagined” (i.e. BSG) and merely “reset”. In a reset you revere the original but start over at square one and retrace your steps, but with a new spin on it. Reimagined means you take the parts you like and make up the rest. Better than BSG would be Sci-Fi’s “Tin Man” movie, which has some of the Wizard of Oz in it but works nothing like it (and I’m not sure that it worked all that well in the end). Star Trek needed a reset because it breaks one of the cardinal rules of sci-fi: continuity.
This one looks to be something of the reset variety, although, with Nimoy’s little time twist, it may just be more rehashing of the original rather than a true reset. We’ll find out when this new era reaches a point where it intersects the old.
about 1 year ago
Good Christ. Another fine storyline succumbing to the “CW Effect”. No sooner have we begun to recover from “Interview With A Vampire” meets “Dawson’s Creek” then we have this drivel coming down the line.
And, I’m no Trekkie geek, but I do recall Vulcans living for some several hundred years. By this story line, which appears to have Spock at about 15 years old, Kirk’s grand-daddy would still be throwing blocks at his mother!
Perhaps if we reverse the polarity there’ll be time to stop the cheapening by proxy the entire Trek storyline.