Broken Toys

Back in my day, we had to walk two miles in the snow, uphill both ways, to get our news.

And we liked it that way!

Well, couldn’t say that’s a big loss.

Stastically, I’m gonna have to go with McCain here. 99.9% of all blogs suck. In terms of sucky blogs vs good blogs, the sucks are clearly winning.

I mean, how many blogs do you really follow, and how many blogs are out there?

Meh, I guess he hates me too then. I’ll live.

Ah, I wish I was just a few moments later in coming here… Anyway, to Klaitu:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law

Its true for a whole lot of things, really… More so when the Internet is concerned. However, the ability to shift through that 90% to find the good 10% (or, quite probably 0.1%), which truly shines, is somewhat of the benefit of huge volumes of content created by a large number of people. Which blogs pretty much are.

So, yeah, I suppose you are correct – he is right that most do, indeed, suck.

Nope. It’s not the possibility to shift through the 90% and find the good 10%.

It’s the possibility to DECIDE what is the good 10% for you. And not have someone else decide for you what’s good and what’s bad.

The guy probably hate the bloggers not because so many of them run awful blogs, but because they don’t behave like normal media – they don’t obey press embargoes, they don’t (collectively anyway) bend to political pressue – in shrot, because they can’t be controlled like traditional media.

To which, my reply is: “Tough shit.”

Maybe it has something to do with most bloggers being jerks?

I wouldn’t call you a Blogger, Scott. You’d actually have to consistently make entries and actually write something.

There are few good liberal blogs just like there is occassional good conservative talk radio – but for the most part the 2 are analogous.(Most popular political blogs are liberal most, while popular political radio is conservative.)

The both fawn on their their targets most base instincts, They live on hyperbole and one sided reports. And they promote division.

@dartwick that is not true, Scott got a great blog here, and Neal Boortz got a great raido show. Scott here a liberal, and Boortz a libertian/republican. But I don’t see one sided reports on either.

Both internet and talk radio allows users feed backs, which is just great! More freedom more fun This blog is the best I found so far, if anyone got better please list.

And if McCain doesn’t like bloggers, he just lost my vote. I like Barr better.

“while popular political radio is conservative.)”

That’s because most of their listening base hasn’t discovered the internet yet

I keed I keeed

Maybe

I bet now he hates people with videocams in their phones, too.

It’s possible he hates “the bloggers” because he really can’t be bothered to understand them – http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/11/mccain-admits-he-doesnt-k_n_106478.html

McCain is just joking, to the people that responded without watching the video.

Not “dislikes”. “hates”. John McCain “hates” you.

“while popular political radio is conservative.)”

That’s because most of their listening base hasn’t discovered the internet yet

I keed I keeed

Maybe

Actually I think you’re spot on. Last election cycle I read an article (sorry too lazy to find it) showing that the talk radio demographic is getting older, while the average blog reader is much younger, implying that talk radio is losing relevance. The average talk radio listener is (iirc) in their late 30’s, while (wild guess here) I’d say the average blog reader is 20’s to early 30’s. Also, conservatives in general don’t seem to understand how to use the blogosphere effectively (most conservative sites look like the ’90’s want their web designers back), so they’re going to have to play a lot of catch-up. (That there are some good liberal radio shows and some good conservative blogs are the exceptions that prove the rule.)

McCain wasn’t really saying “I hate bloggers,” although even he has to recognize that the internet has been much more of a boon for liberals than conservatives. I don’t see that changing fast enough to help the Republicans this election.

Yeah, he laughs when he says it, but it’s a truthy statement because the bloggers aren’t just people with opinions but people who talk about his political lies and flipflops, people with longer memories than the news media.

It occurs to me that the next big wave of the population to put the internet to use will be the retired people with time on their hands and cutting down on trips because of the cost of gas.
Conservatives are going to take over the internet.
Liberals shall rue the day.
My mother-in-law is leading the way.
Take THAT you liberal scum!

He hates his own daughter too! She blogged throughout the campaign, and it wouldn’t surprise me if she was a Clinton or Obama supporter.

I’d hate all the bloggers too if I had to get the SS to turn on my computer to find the evil internet magicks.

err, I posted something but it didn’t show.

I know what’s going on! I posted a link to another website! So here it is again without the link:

Not really. I listens to talk raido very often (to Boortz), but like a lot of other people I heard calling, we listen to it when we drive to work

Once at work it is blogs or internet news.

The great thing about both media is the freedom, unlike TV which is totally one sided. On the internet and talk radio, you can argue about things and you can win or loss, base on your knowledge.

I do disagree about internet is more for liberal than conservatives, because as long as you have the freedom to debate, the truth usually shows. Check out this site, which is a conservative site: capoliticalnews dot com The readers post comments, sometimes the liberal wins, sometime conservative wins, but at least they have some bases and helps convey the message. The idiots will show too, which one ultra liberal constantly copy past garbage and make a fool out of himself.

He’s joking. But since it clearly plays into your pre-conceptions about Republicans/old people, you don’t see that.

See Ann Althouse.

Yeah, I’ve seen neocons make fools of themselves the same way.
One thing to be aware of too, is that there are plenty of groups working the internet message boards for their cause. Any kind of groups from ultra-liberal to neocon to middle east groups in support of the guy they think will allow them to thrive.

Currently there is no easier way to toss baseless slander at someone than to start a blog, make up things about someone, and then site the blog on your “news” program. Given the fact that the average watcher of programs on Fox News will do about zero fact checking anyway, it’s a great tool for bashing or promoting someone “anonymously”.

It all goes back to the simple truth: if you read it on the internet, it is true.

McCain has Scott trumped on the “old” part.

I bet he hates the bloggers because Ben Fritz took a shit all over journalistic integrity! He loves his strategy games so…

Well, mainstream media doesn’t like McCain too much either, at least from the NYTimes editorial corps:

“Yet the Clark affair did reveal something important — not about General Clark, but about Mr. McCain. Now we know what a McCain administration would represent: namely, a third term for Karl Rove.”

OH SNAP.

@Drakks, no, it is very unlikely you can start a site to successfully bash someone, unless:
1. You put in great effort to make your site interesting and draw large amount of people (and that will be over time). I doubt someone who want just to bashing other has that kind of talent.

2. You have large amount of money to spent to prompt your site. In that case this is the internet, others will quickly setup their own site to counter you.

And no matter if the news comes from internet/TV/newspaper, it is always good to check your own source. It is just to check something on internet is way easier than other media sources, that is why it is becoming everyone’s favorite source of information ^^;

I dunno, it seems pretty easy.. hell, Fox News wouldn’t have headlines without “bloggers”, at least in regards to political punditry. Blogger says Obama is actually now a militant jew, Fox reports on this and how it could be possible with photos of him once eating matza, somewhere in the midwest you can hear a yell on the wind proclaiming “I KNEW IT!”.

I mean, illogical or not the damage is done. It just becomes a matter of how fast it spreads and if it becomes relevant enough to be addressed.

I dunno, I’m still stuck on the fact he said “You’ve got the ‘cables’”… in reference to cable television as opposed to actual… cables.

>Being both a Republican (albeit of the Chuck Hagel variety) and an old person, I do, in >fact, get the joke.

The conception you get of american Republicans is somewhat negative from europe, so I am rather *amazed* how they ever get someone to vote for them. It’s not just George Bush, but especially amazing why people did vote for him when any fact seemed to scream against him. When I say amazing, I mean it as that, I really like to understand the reasons. Is this some local states issue with nice senators who actually do a good job?

I remember back in 2001, when I didn’t care Bush win, to 2004 when I disliked his second win (And I really hated he go to Iraq).

However late on I go on defended him, not because how good a job he did, but because how bad the ultra liberals were doing to this country.

The reason I reacted so negatively to McCain over his comment is, there are attempts to shutdown the new free media over the disguise of “Fairness”, from both democrats and republicans.

Freedom of speech is the bases of democracy, and unlike the Europe, most people in US still have the guts to hear out critics and not worry about feelings been hurt.

Is it sad that at 25 I’m already so jaded about straw man arguments from candidates and real news? I’ve seen reports on how Jon Stewart can be blamed for news degradation but frankly, when you have “real” news people like Bill O’Reily and Keith Olberman making infotainment, it all becomes sort of moot.

At least at this point I’m glad Hillary isn’t the major candidate, she was way too eager to censor games rather than encourage the newest medium to head towards it’s fullest potential.

Blaming Jon Stewart for the news degradation is like blaming your chicken pox scars for having given you chicken pox. Jon’s popularity is a direct result of his ability to make fun of how bad the MSM has gotten. Our idiot overlords and their MSM stooges are just annoyed that he is able, not merely to make them look stupid, but let them show the world in their own worlds just how stupid they are.

Now lets have a word from the silent majority…….

“I dunno, I’m still stuck on the fact he said “You’ve got the ‘cables’”… in reference to cable television as opposed to actual… cables.”

Of course, he was referring to submarine telegraph cables. Why, you can send a message from London to New York in less than a day!

Well, Mr. Frosty, it turns out that “facts” are fuzzy things after all.

No, no, no… He didn’t say “dislike” he said “hate”.

Bet he won your vote with that one, eh?