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Amber Night interviews Mia Rose, who manages not to sneak in a link to her Myspace page anywhere within the article.
I never deny what I do if I’m asked, but this doesn’t mean I go around saying “hey look at me, look at me and my ass.” Honestly. And not once did I say that I don’t like the attention. Because it’s obvious that I love it. I think you need to in my line of work. But the outbursts from these people I have never met that are degrading, hurtful, and childish are 100% uncalled for. I am human, and I will defend myself. Call it spamming if you will, but ask yourself how you would deal with this if you were in my position?
Everything I know about porn I learned from Boogie Nights, so, admittedly, much of this is new to me. Still, methinks when you name your primary character your pornstar name, and then makes sure in repeated forum posts that yes you are THAT person, and everyone knows you were the person who put on the elf ears and made with the emotes, you might want to rethink the whole demanding anonymity thing. Still, an interesting alternate viewpoint.
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about 3 years ago
It occurs that all this reblogging on the topic is giving her exactly what she [wants|is trying to avoid]*
(*delete depending on your level of cynicism)
about 3 years ago
After reading that interview, though, it’s pretty clear to me that she didn’t “demand anonymity” at all. It just seems like a botch on both sides; she shouldn’t have reacted to jerks, as she says, and Blizzard might have responded more quickly and accurately to her when she asked why she was banned. Just a standard day in customer service (crap happens, people make mistakes), except it happened to someone who was unusually well-known.
about 3 years ago
“who manages not to sneak in a link to her Myspace page anywhere within the article”
Amber or Mia?
about 3 years ago
Now I can’t get that song out of my head. Thanks, Lum.
about 3 years ago
Someone should hook her up with a Second Life account so she can get back to the kind of level grind that she’s used to.
about 3 years ago
^^ Agreed… and I think, consdering her line of work, that second life would be the better place for her to be anyway.
about 3 years ago
I’m kinda disappointed that Amber took the whole “titty solidarity” thing so far as to lose her awareness of that which is facetious. Using a clearly absurd quote as evidence of some phallic conspiracy seems pretty lame. Do you defend LiLo for driving down the street at twice the legal blood-alcohol ferrying “someone elses” stockpile of coke because some celebrity blogger calls her freckletits? Maybe I’m missing the absurdity of quoting an absurd statement for purposes of awesomeness? I can’t tell sometimes.
I don’t doubt that there are a great many overly puritanical d-bags out there that seem to think THEY are the arbiter of what Mia, you or I should do with our bodies. People who use this supposed moral high-ground to glare down their noses at anyone who shows too much ankle after Labor Day or likes doing the nasty outside the holy covenant man-on-woman matrimony or whatever. That said, I hardly think they are camped out in the Blizzard CS department. Blizzard showed bad judgment and bad customer service. Nothing more. This isn’t the first instance of such a thing, nor will it be the last. It will be long forgotten in a month just like every other “major” pooch-screw they’ve committed. DARE YE NOT QUESTION TEH BLIZZARD!!11oneone!1
People who just want to play the game and have fun don’t use their stage name and actively profess to be said performer. I’m sorry but that is where you forfeit anonymity. Have cake, eat cake – pick one. The rest is just shitty CS.
about 3 years ago
Yeah, she was pretty heavily abused as a child.
about 3 years ago
“titty solidarity” – Hellfire
Shame on you.
Two little words define you in my eyes more than anything you’ve ever written before or will write after, unless you apologize.
about 3 years ago
“phallic conspiracy” is pretty wtf, too. Brings to mind Shadowy Figures with penises for heads sitting around a huge round table in near-darkness, plotting against all the cybersexers on the Internet.
about 3 years ago
“who manages not to sneak in a link to her Myspace page anywhere within the article.”
Didn’t really need to. She used most of the space to list out all of her achievements, name-drop and generally promote herself with pictures instead
I don’t agree with trashing her for her chosen profession; she didn’t do anything to deserve that. But there are jerks in everywhere who believe that being anonymous also gives them free license to be a jerk without consequence.
As someone noted above, when you place yourself in the public eye [and the, lets face it, spend much of your time in promoting yourself and your work in public forums], you either learn to ignore the jerks or you take a little more care to maintain your privacy when you are not working or in a public setting.
about 3 years ago
If Freakazoid said “Giving porn actresses respect will just make them even more stuck up bitches than they already are” facetiously, then it was lost on me. If he cares to clarify his statement I’ll be more than happy to redact and replace his statement with another equally ridiculous but less facetious quote. Internetjack’s just a few comments down from Freakazoid’s comes to mind.
I don’t think anyone with a clue said that Blizzard banned her because she’s a porn star. Even Mia admits that the permaban was technically legit.
It was absolutely a bad idea for Mia to use her stage name for her avatar, even if she wasn’t “famous” yet. Especially being in the industry she’s in. It’s just not good common sense. However, I’m not sure where the notion that she complained about losing her anonymity got started. She’s clearly said that she enjoys attention and that she never shied away from saying who she was when people asked.
about 3 years ago
I think Amber overreacted a bit (but not much) to some derisive comments (one of which I am guilty of), but it came from a good place, and I commend Amber for her show of solidarity with Mia Rose.
One of the things that happens in these virtual worlds we all inhabit is an immediate focus on a woman’s sexuality above and beyond any other circumstance that might be present. In this, I imagine Amber sees herself as much a potential victim as Mia has been of late and latched onto the matter like a brave compatriot in arms against the onslaught of giddy male gamer mysogeny.
So until either nerds get laid regularly and/or churches stop telling said nerds that touching their pee pee is bad, the battle will carry on till the end of time.
about 3 years ago
“In this, I imagine Amber sees herself as much a potential victim as Mia has been of late and latched onto the matter like a brave compatriot in arms…”
So, titty solidarity then Engels?
about 3 years ago
I apologize for framing it indelicately, I guess. Bad time for “funny”, strike two? You’re right though. Dammit. Jack’s comment seems to be of the superserial variety. But I submit that it’s not the meat of the topic and the bulk of his post seems to imply the same even if from a more damning vantage. Her profession isn’t (or shouldn’t) be an issue.
Mia freely admitted that she desired attention right up until she didn’t. I ask why are people (women?) so willing to rally and absolve her of culpability because she’s a girl and bad men(?) were being misogynist fuckwads? This topic came up in vent right before Karazhan tonight and there didn’t seem to be any clear opinion with both men and women divided up all over. It still baffles me. She’s just a person. She chose her own actions. Being pissed off because some douche on the internet made fun of you getting banned for achieving the notoriety you admit you SOUGHT in the first place seems, well … silly. Maybe it’s just my jaded nature, but the quality/quantity of hurtful invectives I may or may not elicit from random_website_001 don’t really seem to matter. It’s not like someone drove to my house and kicked my cat.
In retrospect, however, maybe there IS more to the gender issue. If you massage the analogy into the idea of “no means no” when spurning unwanted, hostile behavior I can see a different side…maybe. In fairness, folks with man-bits generally don’t see that though. It’s not our fricking fault! We have no frame of reference. Outside of those rough-n-tumble days in bishop McSqueezy’s choir we simply don’t face any measurable predation from anyone, let alone from the other half of the planet. I don’t see that as the tack the interview took on the subject though and I’d wager there’s more than a couple reasons why. The low-hanging fruit being that confident, self-assured women usually don’t play the boobs=victims card – or tolerate that as justification.
The question is, though, would you have written a fluffy chit-chat with Peter North, had he been cast in this role instead of Mia? Would anyone have felt any need at all to “get his side out” had the genders been reversed?
about 3 years ago
> Would anyone have felt any need at all to “get his side out” had the genders been reversed?
When you get to sit in the front of the bus all the time, you don’t really need to worry much about whether the people you sent to the back hear your side or not.
about 3 years ago
Yeah, it mostly was. I suppose it isn’t as witty as usual, but I wasen’t expecting to hit a sore spot with you either. Maybe a “oh that’s typical of losers on the internet” and that’d be it, because you didn’t seem to care too much about losers on the internet until this issue was brought up.
As for my real opinion, it changes the more I think about it. I normally don’t think about it at all. It may even be futile. Respect is based a lot on opinion, so I’m not confident we can scrounge up any sort of fact or truths to convince the other side to see differently.
about 3 years ago
My ability to care about this was exhausted in the last post on it. Nothing new has been added by this post. (Though if I ever get back into SL, my avatar’s name is DEFINITELY going to be “Freckletits”)
about 3 years ago
A more apt title would be, “Attention Whores Strike Back”.
That would be in reference to both the author and the subject.
I appreciate that Blizzard is the big kid on the block now, but they arn’t quite the government yet, and as such, your ‘civil liberties’ in relation to playing don’t particularly exist. It’s their sandbox, and they have the right to say who can play in it. Frankly, I can see some justification in removing someone who is indirectly making a connection to another product and profiting by it.
She’s far from the first notable woman in this particular line of work to make a name for herself in the gaming world. Asia Carrera was moding up UT with self likenesses back when the only way we enjoyed warcraft was with fleets of peons. Epic handled the situation differently, mostly by saying nothing, but then again, Asia wasn’t producing Unreal porn (or was she?).
about 3 years ago
I fail to see what the hubbub is about.
She broke the TOS. She admits to breaking the TOS. She was banned for breaking the TOS. Happens everyday. *yawn*
How does her race, sex, or profession factor in? Why is that an issue?
about 3 years ago
I see it more as Amber was attempting to help Mia set the record straight in a world of conflicting rumours and theories. I don’t think she would have done any different if it were Ron Jeremy experiencing the same thing. (Though, let’s face it, Mr Jeremy would be able to take care of himself through many years of experience)
Mia’s real mistake, in my eyes, is that when she became famous she didn’t approach Blizzard and say “Okay, I’m a shmuck, please help me change my char’s name because..” I bet she’s learned her lesson!
about 3 years ago
[Mia’s real mistake, in my eyes, is that when she became famous she didn’t approach Blizzard and say “Okay, I’m a shmuck, please help me change my char’s name because..” I bet she’s learned her lesson!]
Hindsight, as they say, is always 20/20.
about 3 years ago
@Shadowydreamer
Why doesn’t Amber help all players that are legitimitally banned “set the record straight” What makes this one special?
about 3 years ago
“I apologize for framing it indelicately, I guess.”
You shouldn’t apologize, Hellfire. The article was pedestrian. The talking points are mostly about sex, because Mia and Amber made it so, and because our culture doesn’t tend to extend itself beyond such points. Men and women are both perpetrators.
At the core, it is a simple bureaucratic ruling by Blizzard, regarding the state of an account. An account’s real name should be the same as an account holder; amen. Whether or not you agree with such arbitration, the rest of the matter is pomp and circumstance; It is what you impose on the scenario.
That, for me, is what tells the most.
Having read the article again, after a few days (perspective and all), I find my dustpan isn’t big enough to sweep up all of the dropped names. I smell the familiar scent of superficial marketing and of journalism that simply doesn’t bother to ask incisive questions, but rather promotes through publication.
I asked Amber, in a previous comment on this blog, if she was being sexist. Her replies have not assuaged my sentiments.
about 3 years ago
Because this is more than just a banning. This is an affront to women’s rights, equality in the workplace, and pornography as respectable a job as being a doctor (when it comes to women), all because some internet jerks like me with no sense of humor got their chauvanism on apparently.
about 3 years ago
How is this an affront to women’s rights? She admits she didn’t own the account. She admits that she broke the EULA agreement. She admits the ban is legitimate.
What rights were affronted?
As far as I can tell the only reason this is getting any press is that she is in the adult film business. That is an affront to women.
about 3 years ago
How is this an affront to women’s rights?
I believe the esteemed gentleman is being facetious. It may be my arid sense of humor that aided my detection of his sarcasm.
Text is difficult, without clever, little emoticons to convey inference or tone.