Rumors to that effect have been swirling madly about the interweb last week, and today Brad McQuaid, in his usual brief style, discussed everything within, but not including, a 5-foot radius of those rumors.
The money paragaph, and probably taken from Sigil’s pitch to SOE verbatim:
I think it’s safe to say that both Sigil and SOE see the potential of a mind blowing game by the end of the year. What’s needed, bottom line, is some time, and how to get that time is what’s being worked out. And so I still see a 500k+ game, I was just off by a year for a variety of reasons, some under my control, many not. And I think SOE sees this as well. To pull it off however, requires a funded and supported Sigil and a well marketed Vanguard with these different target audiences identified and solid plan on how to reach them all, and then a solid execution of said plan, hitting them hard, pushing these ‘WoW everywhere’ point of purchase materials from the front to the very back.. In the meantime, the Vanguard that was launched in early 2007 continues to move forward, with much of what I’ve talked about patched in over time, and the rest in the first expansion (or re-launch, or whatever we all agree upon in terms of product and service placement).
McQuaid analyzes the current market landscape hopefully (Hey, Burning Crusade has a silly raid progression, so casuals will come… try Vanguard! Lord of the Rings may not have a meaningful endgame so raiders may come… try Vanguard!) and sees a possible opening for a retooled Vanguard to take the world by storm. Unfortunately, it’s going to be difficult. Why?
You can’t make games for next year’s PCs. A good portion of McQuaid’s essay deals with the hope that gamers will, en masse, upgrade their systems to Vista, and in so doing have a machine that can, well, run Vanguard. Except that… gamers aren’t buying Vista. No one seems to be, actually. I just spent an evening yanking it off my machine.
World of Warcraft is successful for about 500 reasons. One of them is that anyone can run it. Its system requirements are low. It’s one of the few games I can comfortably run on my laptop. This is not insignificant. And it was very intentional (as Rob Pardo explained during his AGC keynote address) – to really have market penetration, you have to have as few roadblocks as possible. And an engine that requires… well, as McQuaid describes it:
Vanguard needs not only a fast graphics card, but also a system with pci-express, fast memory, a fast FSB, etc. With EQ, you just needed to buy a Voodoo 1 or Voodoo 2 – the rest of your system is fine. With Vanguard, however, just plugging the fastest AGP card into your 2-3 year old system doesn’t cut it. In fact, Vanguard runs pretty well on a 2 GB system with a decent pci-express video card and fast memory in a 2.6 GHz Pentium; conversely, run the game on an older AGP system, the fastest AGP card you can buy, and a 3.2 GHz CPU and you’ll have framerate issues. The game is simply not CPU bound, nor just graphics card bound, but rather mostly bound by the data that it needs to constantly move from the CPU to main memory to the graphics card, and then all the way back again. It’s all about the various bus speeds and caches – moving data around efficiently is arguably more important than processing that data on the CPU or GPU.
That’s not a roadblock. That’s a barricade manned by surly Somali gunmen in technicals, demanding all your RAM and motherboard bandwidth so they can trade it to IGE for qat leaves. And it sounds suspiciously like blaming your users’ purchasing and upgrade habits for your engine coding.
The market isn’t going to stand still. Sure, Vanguard launched against Burning Crusade. Then soon thereafter, Lord of the Rings launched. McQuaid describes this market as though these are where all his potential users have strayed, soon to return once they’re bored. Except that assumes that by that point, there won’t be Warhammer, and Conan, and WoW’s 2nd expansion, and any number of other new and shiny games. You can’t assume that you’ll have a chance once the new shiny wears off. The new shiny will always be with us. Which leads into:
You only get one chance. Sounds brutal. Is true.
Why? Because once your game no longer is that new shiny, you’re wrestling for users amongst the pool of churn, those players that hop from game to game and the occasional new convert achieved through word of mouth or web site ad or what have you. The problem is that finding those players is exponentially more expensive than just picking up the curious at first launch. When you first launch, you have no expectations (save those holes your marketing department or logorrheic message board posters dig for you). There’s a critical mass of new players, out of which social groupings can form among each other.
But afterwards, you have to deal with the fact that most players will be trickling in, and interacting with what community already exists. And if your launch didn’t go well? That community is ANGRY. Bad launches kill games.
Vanguard can, in a year, be the second coming of Robot Telon Jesus, and it won’t matter, without a concerted rebuilding effort. It’s not easy. As far as I know, there are only two games who have managed this: Eve Online and Anarchy Online. And neither have the mass market numbers McQuaid still expects. If Sigil/SOE does manage to turn the ship of Telon around, it will be a “world first”. They’ll have to significantly retool the client – not just expect users to upgrade to its level. They’ll have to have a clear path of content for users to explore, and a friendly community to embrace new users as they begin. (Anarchy Online has player volunteers that literally warp in and offer to help new players as they start, for example.) And even then… with all that… will Vanguard reach McQuaid’s oft-quoted and again-restated goal of 500,000 customers?
A better goal is a game that is slowly growing, self-sustaining, and with an active community. No one playing Eve really cares if they have 50k or 500k users – they have a fun game and they know it’s not going anywhere. That’s an example worth emulating.


#1 by Lord Macabre on May 8th, 2007
My major problem with their technical requirements are that I can’t see anything on screen to justify the poor performance. I’ve got a P4D-3Ghz, 2Gig of memory and a Nvidia 7800GTX. I have two options, I can either set the game so that it has a passable frame rate, in which case it looks worse than DAOC (which is many years old at this point), or I can crank up the graphics and get abysmal performance with graphics that I personally still don’t think are that great. Some effects are striking (the water comes to mind), but overall the sum of the parts graphically aren’t anywhere near good enough to explain the terrible performance.
My second issue isn’t that there are bugs, but the sheer quantity and severity of the bugs. I expect bugs in a new game. I do not, however, expect to get dropped from groups, randomly disconnected, dropped to desktop, logged out randomly and logged in as a different character (seriously, WTH is that all about), etc. This game doesn’t just have bugs related to the game engine, it’s just a mess that wasn’t ready for launch.
Finally, the progression of content and the pacing are terrible. I’m given no direction regarding where I should be progressing. I find myself wandering countryside randomly looking for something my level to do, and instead just running into either things that are out of my league, or barren and empty entirely. As someone said, I’d rather they had less total content, but had quality content and had a clear progression path.
I doubt I’d try it again unless it was free play time, but even then it depends on how long it takes them to sort things out. As most probably know, people don’t generally commit time to more than one MMO at a time, and I doubt I’d drop another that was holding my attention to come back even for free time after my initial experience with Vanguard.
#2 by Dave on May 11th, 2007
VG is crap and it was crap when it was released. The game is broke. All this fanboy talk really makes me sick. I’m so glad I BETA ordered so that I avoided paying $$$$ for the POS. I’m an old school EQ player so I don’t mind a hard core game but all the problems with VG is too much.
I figure VG will close if the evil nerf happy monster named SOE does not buy Sigil. The bottom line is the consumer has spoken and Sigil now feels the wrath of angry customers who paid $$$ for a broken POS.
#3 by Kamiki on May 13th, 2007
Kamiki here, many people in beta may or may not remember me, I played from early 2.0 up until the end and when I left the forums stunk with the hate replies my goodbye post received.
I really wanted to love Vanguard. I followed the game from the Sigil Games Online forums, posted on them, and eventually moved to the Vanguard Forums. I watched the game go from stuttery piece of crap with massive potential to clone of the other games that had discarded much of potential and yet still somehow has enough potential that it could have launched amazingly.
Brad did have an idea but he got scared, or so I think. The Big Book of Sexiness was replaced with a WoW quest/ability ui. The damn interface was given gryphons on either side of a bar the same damn size as WoW, replacing the interesting layout originally used for the original styllized combat. Counters and reactionaries were trashed in favor of a mash style play style ala WoW and EQ2. Instead of fine tuning the reactiionary timer combat they gave up, instead of fine tuning their gorgeous quest tracker, lore tracker, ability and spell book, the gave up. Instead of finishing diplomacy they scrapped it for a side game. They gave up. Time was running out and instead of following their innovations they gave up and cloned the games they all admitted to playing avidly.
I am not bashing WoW and EQ2, far from it. I enjoyed both games for quite some time. I am knocking Brad’s inability to follow through with innovation. His cowardice in back peddling his words and changing his story from “The first 3rd gen innovative game” to “The first 3rd gen progressive game” somewhere along the line he lost sight of what he was trying to create. Would I have liked what he was trying to create? I will never know cause all that he churned out was a half assed regurgitation of the same old shit I can play in other games.
Kamiki
*smiles*
#4 by nach0king on May 16th, 2007
While his “OK, if we can just get the WHOLE WORLD to upgrade then everything will be ok!!!!!” spiel does indeed reek of Crazy, at least he acknowledges that the “it’s just EQ 3″ perception is a failure of marketing. A younger Brad, and indeed almost everyone connected to EQ, would have blamed the users for being so stupid and naive not to have recognised Vanguard’s genius straight away.
Granted, he does that a little bit with his “they don’t do any research!” statement. But still. Progress!