Comments on: Two ways to MAKE! MONEY! FAST! http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/ Random Comments About Games and Tractors Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:47:25 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Aufero http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-3993 Aufero Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:00:35 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/#comment-3993 Interesting speculation on <a href="http://research.yale.edu/lawmeme/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1768" rel="nofollow"><br> LawMeme</a> today about this, and the possible legal implications of running a scam involving in-game currency that can be reliably tied to real world currency. Interesting speculation on
LawMeme today about this, and the possible legal implications of running a scam involving in-game currency that can be reliably tied to real world currency.

]]> By: Talorc http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-3992 Talorc Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:59:04 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/#comment-3992 To Comstar re Banking -<br> <br> What do you think in "Real" life protects Mr bank manager from setting up a Bank, taking deposits and running of to Bermuda afterwards?<br> <br> There is no "code" that prevents him from doing that.<br> <br> What theoritically prevents it in real life is strong government, which has created a banking regulation law, which it enforces, for the economic protection of its citizens.<br> <br> If a psuedo government starts to form in Eve, it could start enacting Banking regulations. To Comstar re Banking -

What do you think in “Real” life protects Mr bank manager from setting up a Bank, taking deposits and running of to Bermuda afterwards?

There is no “code” that prevents him from doing that.

What theoritically prevents it in real life is strong government, which has created a banking regulation law, which it enforces, for the economic protection of its citizens.

If a psuedo government starts to form in Eve, it could start enacting Banking regulations.

]]> By: Merkwurdigliebe http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-3978 Merkwurdigliebe Thu, 24 Aug 2006 23:05:25 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/#comment-3978 Mmmm... less than a year's work, and about $100k worth of in-game monies... I could pay off some student loans. Mmmm… less than a year’s work, and about $100k worth of in-game monies… I could pay off some student loans.

]]> By: TPRJones http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-3991 TPRJones Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:59:49 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/#comment-3991 Correct. Because Eve not only doesn't discourage such activity, in some ways it actively promotes it. Because CCP believes it makes for an interesting game, and they've got enough subscribers to back up that belief. So far, at least. Correct. Because Eve not only doesn’t discourage such activity, in some ways it actively promotes it. Because CCP believes it makes for an interesting game, and they’ve got enough subscribers to back up that belief. So far, at least.

]]> By: Tony H. http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-3990 Tony H. Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:51:58 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/#comment-3990 So when it comes to the recent Economic PvP Scam that just happened, if the guy just wanted to use that ugodly amount of in game currency, he could just transfer it to a new account and junk the old one, right? I mean, that amount of starting money is just insane, it sounds like. But it sounds like he can't exactly transfer that into real cash money. Just has a very big in game bank account and doesn't have to be hold accountable for anything he said or did in game. So when it comes to the recent Economic PvP Scam that just happened, if the guy just wanted to use that ugodly amount of in game currency, he could just transfer it to a new account and junk the old one, right? I mean, that amount of starting money is just insane, it sounds like. But it sounds like he can’t exactly transfer that into real cash money. Just has a very big in game bank account and doesn’t have to be hold accountable for anything he said or did in game.

]]> By: TPRJones http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-3989 TPRJones Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:38:11 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/#comment-3989 Hmm, that last post of mine there is poorly phrased. I meant to say that you can't use brute force PvP to get your ISK back in Eve. You can do it with PvP in the sense that in Eve scamming is a valid form of PvP. Which is the one thing I really like about Eve, is that it's PvP isn't limited to simple brute force. There's Social PvP and Economic PvP going on in there that is every bit as cuthroat and ruthless as any Fighting PvP system ever made. Hmm, that last post of mine there is poorly phrased. I meant to say that you can’t use brute force PvP to get your ISK back in Eve. You can do it with PvP in the sense that in Eve scamming is a valid form of PvP. Which is the one thing I really like about Eve, is that it’s PvP isn’t limited to simple brute force. There’s Social PvP and Economic PvP going on in there that is every bit as cuthroat and ruthless as any Fighting PvP system ever made.

]]> By: TPRJones http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-3988 TPRJones Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:34:28 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/#comment-3988 <i>right, but the reality is we have no way of knowing what CCP does or does not do, or will do in this case. It still comes down to one guy stealing from other players, wasting their time, and there is no condemnation or \'e2\'80\'9crails\'e2\'80\'9d to stop it</i><br> <br> Tide, you are completely missing the point. CCP is not going to stop it, they are high-fiving each other about how cool their game is because of it. If someone can scam you out of your ISK, then it's your fault for falling for it, and scamming people for ISK is a very valid way to play the game. I would agree completely (it's a good mirror of real life that way) except for the fact that you can't use PvP to get your ISK back. If there was a way to kill someone and get ahold of their ISK, then it'd be the perfect ruthless game system all around.<br> <br> As it is you have to scam them to get your ISK back, and that won't work because the odds are they are smarter than you already or they wouldn't have your ISK. right, but the reality is we have no way of knowing what CCP does or does not do, or will do in this case. It still comes down to one guy stealing from other players, wasting their time, and there is no condemnation or \’e2\’80\’9crails\’e2\’80\’9d to stop it

Tide, you are completely missing the point. CCP is not going to stop it, they are high-fiving each other about how cool their game is because of it. If someone can scam you out of your ISK, then it’s your fault for falling for it, and scamming people for ISK is a very valid way to play the game. I would agree completely (it’s a good mirror of real life that way) except for the fact that you can’t use PvP to get your ISK back. If there was a way to kill someone and get ahold of their ISK, then it’d be the perfect ruthless game system all around.

As it is you have to scam them to get your ISK back, and that won’t work because the odds are they are smarter than you already or they wouldn’t have your ISK.

]]> By: Comstar http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-3987 Comstar Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:37:52 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/#comment-3987 There is nothing in Eve to support banking, thats the problem. Eve only supports *scamming*. The so called banking asepcts are mearly scams that havn't been closed down and the money launded yet. There is nothing in Eve to support banking, thats the problem. Eve only supports *scamming*. The so called banking asepcts are mearly scams that havn’t been closed down and the money launded yet.

]]> By: Vandemar http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-3986 Vandemar Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:36:55 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/#comment-3986 There's already a stock/shares system in EVE. As I understand it, it's pretty screwed up, but it's there. There’s already a stock/shares system in EVE. As I understand it, it’s pretty screwed up, but it’s there.

]]> By: Talorc http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-3977 Talorc Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:58:37 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/08/23/two-ways-to-make-money-fast/#comment-3977 I dont think the EVE developers will do anything about this. Its working as intended as far as they are concerned.<br> <br> The guy has not abused any in game bug or anything. He has executed a classic pyramid scheme scam! I say good on him, it absolutely fantastic that the economic system in EVE is robust enough to support ideas like Banking.<br> <br> Pretty soon some guys in Eve are going to start meeting in a Space coffee house and start trading stuff.... An then issuing Stocks and Shares and prospectus :-) I dont think the EVE developers will do anything about this. Its working as intended as far as they are concerned.

The guy has not abused any in game bug or anything. He has executed a classic pyramid scheme scam! I say good on him, it absolutely fantastic that the economic system in EVE is robust enough to support ideas like Banking.

Pretty soon some guys in Eve are going to start meeting in a Space coffee house and start trading stuff…. An then issuing Stocks and Shares and prospectus :-)

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